Pastor Gaston: Social Activism Is At The Heart Of The Christian Gospel

There’s been quite the give and take in the OIB comments section about the role of clergy in the political community. Herron Gaston, senior pastor of Summerfield United Methodist Church, declares in this commentary, “I reject as false the notion that the Black preacher should strictly stick to the pulpit and do not cross-pollinate into the political arena.”

I would like to call for calm over the vitriolic and contentious verbal aggressiveness and assault over the role of the clergy in public religious life. Recently, an article directed at me by Retired Judge Lopez, and indirectly at my clergy colleagues who are politically involved or have political aspirations in the City of Bridgeport, has sparked a considerable amount of unconstructive dialogue about the role of the Black preacher. Though Judge Lopez’s commentary seeks to address clergy from all backgrounds engaging in the political process. I have filtered through several comments on OIB platform and have come to appreciate all of your contributions and opinions, though there are many views that I vehemently disagree with, but that I wholeheartedly respect. I think too much time and energy has been expended to this divisive issue, and I ask that we find constructive ways to come together as a collective community to fix our gaze on improving the plight of our beloved community. This post is not a rebuttal to Judge Lopez’s critique of me or those in my profession, but some history into the role of the Black preacher.

I am not interested in the art of character assassination or counter character assassinations, nor do I see the need to defend myself or my position in the court of public opinion. I think that my credibility and track record of proven leadership in various aspects of the human endeavor speaks for itself, and those who know me best, would be in a better position to speak to my intentions and goodwill. And for those who are unfamiliar with me, I hope to gain your respect and trust overtime as I continue to provide spiritual nourishment to my flock and public advocacy for the issues that matters most to our community.

Therefore, what I would like to examine is the enduring report card of the Black prophetic tradition since I saw a substantial number of comments centered around this topic that I think is paramount to address.

There is a historic relationship between Black clergy and American politics that stems back decades. Black Christian ministers, historically by definition, were and to a large extent, still are social activist, articulating the concerns for justice on behalf of their parishioners and the broader Black and minority communities. The Black preacher has always used their community activism as a catalyst to influence policies and sociopolitical agendas on municipal, state, and national levels. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and other pastors like Jade Jackson, C.T. Vivian, Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young, and Jessie Jackson, Sr. were crucial voices in the fight for civil rights and were fearless leaders and religious advocates of the Civil Rights movement during the 1960s.

Dr. King and other Black preachers held press conferences within their churches and opened their doors to politicians, statesman, secular judges, and others to strategize and plan how to mobilize the Black community to fight against social inequality.

The Black preacher often became the mouthpiece for articulating the grievances and concerns of Black people, and they became strategists who shaped the objectives and methodologies on how the grievances of Black people would be addressed and dealt with in the public domain. This reality still holds true in large part today with respect to the role of the Black preacher. Black preachers always infused into the ethos of the Black church that social activism is at the heart of the Christian Gospel. And that Jesus has a preferential option to stand alongside the poor and the dispossessed. In fact, the Black prophetic Christian tradition sees Jesus as a notoriously prophetic political figure who compassionately embraced a social Gospel. Towards that end, exegetically, the role of Jesus in the Temple and outside of the Temple could be radically interpreted that Jesus delicately straddled the ecclesial-political fence.

Hence, there is strong scholarly support and biblical evidence that holds the position that the bible is replete with countless of examples of religious leaders being actively involved in public life, who served or served as advisors to members of the government, which arguably, could be synonymous to occupying public office which did not contaminate or taint their Christian witness among their followers. On this basis, many who espouse the Black prophetic tradition, is open to the idea of Black preachers serving the sacred community and the secular community.

For instance, in 1963, my black forefathers, from whose well I am birthed, entered the political scene in New York and forced the State of New York and the trade union to hire Black and Latino construction workers. And at the same time, stood up against the Board of Education, demanding that all people, but especially ethnic minorities be given a decent shot at a quality education that attempted to render them inferior. Hence, a surge of Black pastors and ministers ran for public office, severed on various boards and commissions throughout the City of New York, forcing the demonic conscious of America to become more inclusive and democratic. Put simply, a cadre of Black preachers have always been involved in both the church and in politics. I would argue that it is not about taunting their resumes in an attempt to draw admiration from the political machine, or for their own personal advancement, but rather to inspire hope in those who feel that such accomplishments are impossible to attain, and to provide a more promising hope that is not just eschatological but a material reality.

With that said, the first Black person to serve in Congress was a Black preacher, the late Rev. Hiram Rhodes Revels, who was a pastor in the African Methodist Episcopal Church in 1880. Fast forward to the time of Reconstruction, Rev. Richard H. Cain, another Methodist minister served in Congress while simultaneously pastoring a church. The infamous, more contemporary, Baptist pastor and theologian par excellence, Rev. Adam Clayton Powell Jr. was the first Black person to serve in Congress from New York, while effectively “nurturing” and providing “spiritual enrichment” to his parishioners. Arguably, almost singlehandedly, Rev. Powell helped to create more access to educational opportunities and jobs for Blacks and other ethnic minorities in the urban centers of New York City and Spanish Harlem than any of his contemporaries. It was important and remain of supreme importance that our Black and Brown boys and girls see positive role models in their respective communities, so that they might see that as worthy of imitation.

Therefore, I reject as false the notion that the Black preacher should strictly stick to the pulpit and do not cross-pollinate into the political arena. This kind of prophetic witness is germane to the Black prophetic tradition, which draws inspiration from biblical contemporaries such as Moses, Isaiah, Amos, and Jeremiah. Any attempt to adjudicate and to suffocate the voice of Black preachers who adopt the Black prophetic tradition–and who also choose to hold a political position/appointment–is equivalent to bastardizing our ancestors which is antithetical to the interest of justice for Black folks who have an allegiance or adherence to this unique strand of the Black church. I would caution with significant care and sanctity not to tamper with the celestial witness of the Black saints on whose labor we rest and on whose sacrifices we have all profited.

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      1. I will be back with some of my own thoughts after some hours of contemplation. When I first saw this posting this morning from Dr.Gaston,I felt it appropriate to say,at least,.. “Thank You.”

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  1. Frank,

    I called his church today to meet with him on next Thursday. I appreciate his words too. I think he showed class in his response. He addressed the issue spot on. He was cleaver in using certain buzz words without attacking anyone. He reminds me a lot of Obama.

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    1. President Obama walked away from his longtime pastor because of some outrageous sermons he made from the pulpit. Don’t forget that little nugget about President Obama.

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  2. Reverend Gaston begins his written response with the following:

    “I would like to call for calm over the vitriolic and contentious verbal aggressiveness and assault over the role of the clergy in public religious life. Recently, an article directed at me by Retired Judge Lopez, and indirectly at my clergy colleagues who are politically involved or have political aspirations in the City of Bridgeport, has sparked a considerable amount of unconstructive dialogue about the role of the Black preacher. ”

    “Assault?” No one assaulted you Reverend Gaston nor the black clergy. The separation of church and state is clearly written into the U.S. Constitution and many people believe appropriately so. I don’t care if you are a black, white or hispanic religious leader, you should not hold a political office.

    Judge Lopez penned an article stating factual information which included two links. One was an article you were quoted in and one was an Oped you penned. There was nothing “vitriolic” about it.

    The person who was attacking a variety of other OIB posters was your very own Stephanie Thompson who couldn’t even get the most basic information correct and was called out on it from a variety of posters made up of different races, gender, ethnicities and more.

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    1. Maria,
      Let me tell you something: I do not know this pastor. I am looking to meet him. Do not say “your very own Stephanie Thompson.” What basic information that I did not get correct? I basically told you that your “friend” attacked this good pastor in our community and as a black woman who identify what the black church and the role of the black preacher in politics, I let you know how I felt. You let us know how you felt. Maria, do not think you can say what you want to to people and they don’t tell you how they feel. Call it what you want. If you give respect you will get respect. I agree with the pastor, it was “viriolic” and your friend did “nastily assualt” this pastor. Speaking of Obama leaving his church, remember Dr. Wright at Trinity UCC church preached about the evil nature of america. Obama made a political decision to leave, not because what the black preacher were saying about America was wrong. You know NOTHING about the BLACK CHURCH or BLACK PREACHER. BYE Maria.

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      1. Judge Looez did not attack anyone. She penned an editorial laying out the history of a particular religion and its founder. She referenced comments made by Reverend Gaston in a newspaper article in a Florida paper and an editorial he himself penned..

        Stating facts cannot be an ‘attack” or “assault” because they are simply facts.

        You wrote a narrative about how Judge Lopez and I were not the only ones fighting for Latinos. I have never heard Judge Lopez state she was leading the charge on Latino issues and I know I never have because I am not even Latino.

        Judge Lopez fights for right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, lawfulness vs. unlawfullness. She does that regardless of ethnicity, race, gender, etc.

        You can’t hold a candle to her and never will.

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        1. Maria,

          You let Lopez know the next time not to ever talk about a black preacher that she know nothing about. Next time tell her to know the person first. Let her also know that if it was not for my black ancestors fighting on the front line she could never make JUDGE in the US. Thank you. Maria. Just in case you think you are exempt, you are NOT.

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    2. Maria,

      Thank you for you contribution. However, let me say this, I do not know Ms. Thompson. I learned of her through this platform. My response was to the verbal blows I read in the comment section. Judge Lopez is free to have her opinion. I am sure she’s an honorable women. I am not here to demean. And I would ask the same of her. We can agree to disagree. I am simply responding as a son of the black prophetic tradition and the role of the black preacher. From the comment section, people had a lot to say about this and I thought that I would provide some insight. We all regardless of background, have a lot to be grateful for with respect to the influence of the Black church and the role of the black clergy on American life. Had the black church not have gotten involved, no telling where we would be as a people.

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  3. Please Maria. Do not comment for me. I do not feel there is a need to exclude clergy from political appointments.
    What I questioned is why certain people wait half a lifetime to be appointed to a board or commission while others appear to jump ahead to the front of the waiting line.
    There appears to be some method to this madness that may include a promise to the mayor to vote his way when told to.

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    1. Bob, there was absolutely no attempt to speak on your behalf. You didn’t even cross my mind when I made the post.

      I made the post on behalf of those that I have a relationship with who defended Judge Lopez. As you know, you would definitely not fit that description.

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    2. Bob,

      I agree with you. I can see how you could have questions around that. But like I said, we should get to know the pastor before passing judgement. Right is right. Some of you guys on here seem to know each other, so it is easy to beat up newcomers. We need his voice in our community.

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  4. Reverend Gaston, I appreciate your kind words and want you to know that I personally never questioned the right of you or any other minister to pursue a political agenda. As a 68 year old Black man living in this America I certainly remember the churches and ministers you so eloquently stated that played a part the Black man’s pursuit of justice.

    My Brother just understand that some of us merely questioned why you were silent on who appointed you to the Civil Service because like I said in one of my posts, “transparency in Bridgeport politics is harder to come by than a winning lotto ticket.” Good luck in all your future endeavors and if you would like to discuss the problems that Black’s face with respect to the Civil Service please let me know because I am keenly aware after having dealt with it over 30 years in the hiring of Black’s for the fire service.

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    1. Brother Day, thank you because those are my concerns. Rev. Gaston my questions to you directly had nothing to with you running for any public office, my concern was your relationship with Mayor Ganim and how did you get appointed to the Bridgeport Civil Service Commission, at no time was I disrespectful to you. Your reply to me was to call your secretary to arrange for a meeting with you but that trouble me because on a number fronts, I didn’t understand why you couldn’t respond publicly on OIB when you had already stated in a Florida newspaper back in August this year that you had a good relationship with Mayor Ganim but you couldn’t tell that to me on OIB. I’m a life long of Bridgeport and I understand some of the past history of the civil commission here in Bridgeport because Donald Day and myself and a number of other black and Hispanic had to sue the City and civil service in order to get people of color to be hire and the same thing happened in the police dept two years earlier. Politics has always been involved in appointments here as what just happened with the past head of that commission who didn’t reside in Bridgeport but it was well know by those in power. Rev. Gaston you replaced her and after you only being in Bridgeport only 3 years threw up red flags. Next, why didn’t you tell Councilman Ernie Newton to call you concerning his position on stop and frisk instead of going after him with your editorial?

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      1. Mr. Mackey,

        Presumably on my part, I took for granted the fact that the general public was unaware of my recent appointment, considering the fact that this news outlet posted it weeks, perhaps a month or so prior to me coming on this platform. Let me be clear my work around justice issues did not just start here in Bridgeport, but this has been a life project of mine, and have done so in other parts of the state, particularly in New Haven. Therefore, I make it my business when I move into any community to try to get to know those in leadership to establish a connection. Establishing a connection with leaders, to me, is not synonymous to being in bed with them or being in alignment with their political agenda. You accused me of know Mario Testa. I have never met him and wouldn’t know what he looked like if I walked into a supermarket.

        Let me clarify about about brother Newton, I actually called brother Newton out of respect for him being a leader in my district and informed him of my plans to do a press conference. In fact, he even agreed that it should be held at my church. I was, and a lot of others were dumbfounded and caught off guard when he introduced the idea of stop and frisk, because that was the first time I learned of it. That same day, when the media asked me questions about my thoughts I gave them my opinion. I did not sugarcoat it. I cannot, however, control what portions the news shares.

        In addition, I did try contacting brother Newton via phone roughly 30 minutes after the segment and was unsuccessful reaching him. However, I did not leave a message. My associate pastor and secretary can both attest to this. Because so many people contacted the church and so many parents being concerned for there kids and for themselves quite candidly, they wanted to know where I stood on the issue. Therefore, I made a public statement so that it was clear or my position regarding stop and frisk. Being from FL where this measure was hostile towards black and brown folks, and a situation that I endured growing up, ignited a pintiched nerve. As I am sure it did for a lot of people. If you disagreed with my approach, I respect that and welcome constructive dialogue, but I think that the dialogue should be no bias. There are two sides to a story and we may never get to real truth. But I am hoping for a middle ground.

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        1. Thanks my Brother Gaston
          I knew what i said would ignite and touch some nerves in our community.Being a Leader sometimes we have to say somethings to get our peoples attention and maybe to wake them up. In all my years of serves as president of our city council from 1981-85 being the first Black person to serve in that position in the history of our city. Deputy speaker of the House of Representative and as Deputy President pro-tem of the State Senate. I’ve always said what was on my mind and will continue to fight for social change in this city. Remember a 12 year old child was killed and we have had 3 other innocent people killed on our streets. While i may have acted on my emotions i know first hand about stop and Frisk having been a victim and my sons a victim of stop and frisk i know first hand. I’ve never been a politician who sticks his finger in the air and say if i say this will it get me re-elected or is it popular. We may not always agree on issues and as i get older I’m learning people are in titled to their opinion. I’ve never attack anyone because we disagree on something. Ron and Don can contest to that. We may not always agree but we don’t attack one another. Dr. King and Malcom X didn’t always agree but they found common ground. Please let’s find Common Ground.

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          1. Brother Newton,

            Thank you for your work and voice and advocacy in the community. Finding common ground is the key for the advancement of our community. Disagreement is not always an entirely bad thing. It was through the disagreement of both King and Malcolm that brought them closer towards the end of King’s life.

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          2. Maria,
            You are a cantankerous worm that needs to find a hole to move into. Don’t you ever insult me talking about I will never be able to light a candle to her. I am my own person. Judge Lopez should be thankful to the black preacher or she probably wouldn’t have been able to be a judge to judge what is right v. what is wrong. She is a judge and maybe that was her motive from the beginning so she could not say what she was fighting for openly because it would stand in way of her advancement in her profession. Then again I read an article where she was helping LATINO kids. So stop lying you lethal liar!

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          3. City Council Person Ernest Newton… You really need to get to work on the East Side “Gala” Supermarket. Time is running low. CC Person,Ernest Newton…WHEN WILL WE SEE A CONTRACT BETWEEN GALA AND BRIDGEPORT?

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  5. Thank you Reverend Gaston, Mayor Ganim doesn’t know how to get the Drugs and Guns off are Streets and neither does your clergy colleagues, we keep losing our kids on a monthly bases, so what programs does you church provide to keep our kids safe from gangs,drugs and guns?

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  6. Hi Don,

    Thank you for the work that you have done and the legacy that you’ve laid. I honor the relentless sacrifices you and others have made in promoting communal flourishing for all. I have a deep and profound admiration for those who have been involved in the struggle long before my time, and I think that I have a reciprocal responsibility to do my part.

    Initially when I said to reach out to my secretary, my intent was not to come off as cavalier or pompous, but in all seriousness, my secretary controls my calander and I wanted to allow those who had an interest in meeting with me to have that opportunity. Sometimes when you are unfamiliar with someone, the tone and tenor could be easily misconstrued, so to Brother Mackey, please accept my apology and charge it to my head and not my heart. God speed.

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  7. Should I comment?

    Maybe I should use the ‘WWAFS’ (what would Andy Fardy say) approach.
    Andy would likely make a comment short on euphemisms.

    Or, should I use gospel? How about “Render unto Ceasar …………….”.

    Or, should I suggest to the ‘reverend’ that he is confusing social service with political activity.

    Maybe I should comment, as others have, that separation of church and state is interpreted by most organized religions to require that those preaching the word of God refrain from political activity.

    The ‘reverend’ defiantly states “I reject as false the notion that the Black preacher should strictly stick to the pulpit and do not cross-pollinate into the political arena.”

    I well. Just another example of how the black community declares that their values should not be judged or criticized by the rest of American society.

    Say alleluia.

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    1. Tom,

      Maybe if white values were moral black people wouldn’t have to show you white folks what true values ought to look like. We showed white people love in action. History shows all you all have done was divide and conquer. Go Read the WILLIE Lynch letter. That is the stategy you used and continue to use. Worry about white immorality, greed, and corrupion and 45. Do that and stop meddling in the affairs of Bridgeport. Ok, Tommy!

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  8. Hi Jim,

    Thank you for your message. Since arriving in Bridgeport after having been in New Haven for roughly 7 years, and before that mostly in the southern states, I am still learning the essclessial culture of the North East. I am established in several clergy organizations with pastors who are concerned with social justice issues, but admittedly I wish there were more. In terms of what I am doing at my church to address this issue, is that we have a program that we run called YWAP (Youth With a Purpose) that offers a myriad of mentoring, social, economic, spiritual, and educational support to Neigborhood children. In addition, I operate an afterschol program entitled project learn. This program helps neigborhood children with after school support. We also run a Friday Night Live Program for youth where we allow them to come together in a safe, non-judgmental, safe space to discuss challenges and issues they may be facing around a number of topics. We also provide outreach and mental health referral services for youth in crisis. These are only a few of the many things that our church does in terms of outreach for the community. Great question.

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  9. Tom White,

    The issue of church and has been debated for centuries. We have had people on both sides of the argument as to what Jefferson meant when he penned this statement in a Massachusetts newspaper as he referred to a CT based Baptist church.

    Jefferson asserts,
    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”

    Withstanding such statement, some inside and outside of the legal community have argued that the separation of church and state was not solely to protect the state from the church but the church from government intrusion. I suppose the only person who you would truly know what they meant when they wrote these words would be Jefferson himself. Unfortunately, since he is unable to clarify, we are left to loosely interpret it. Be well.

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    1. Historically speaking, I would say that our “Founding Fathers” felt that it was more important to separate(to some degree) the matters of church and state as they had a very contemporary perspective of the conflict of church and state. The Puritans were outcasts due to being persecuted by the Church of England. Catholics who settled the Maryland Area were outcasts from the Protestant rulers of Northern Europe. The Founding Fathers saw the negative consequences of integrating Church and State,saw the negative consequences of establishing a “state religion.” The main issue was “church” having a far too great influence(all the European religious wars). The Founding Fathers sought to protect “state” from the internecine bloodshed caused by state religions. The issue was to protect the “state” from religious intrusion. Our Founding Fathers saw Faith and Religion as a centrifugal force as a part of their very own existence but saw the need to see some separation between church and state. That does not mean that it was an absolute separation. However,it was quite clear, Our Founding Fathers rejected the notion of state-established religions and the horrors of hundreds of years of state-sponsored religious warfare and killing.

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      1. In other words..Jefferson and all generations of Americans since Jefferson have had more concerned over the the ability of “organized religion” to impact decisions of state. I am sorry but i will absolutely disagree with the statement from reverend Gaston…. “Withstanding such statement, some inside and outside of the legal community have argued that the separation of church and state was not solely to protect the state from the church but the church from government intrusion.”

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  10. Ron,
    I have a question for you. You ask Dr. Gaston some good questions about why he wrote in reference to Ernie. Now my thing is, you can tell you had only heard one side and decided to go with whatever response you got. I get it. Ernie is likely your friend. My question is, did you ask Ernie why he did not inform others who were there what exactly he was going to say, so that he did not take away from the spirit of why they was meeting in the first place? Fair enough, did you also ask Judge Lopez, why she took Dr. Gaston to task in a public fashion and came for his head? Let us be fair now. Let’s be fair.

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    1. Stephanie Thompson, yes I did, I see absolutely nothing wrong with Judge Lopez’s letter. Judge Lopez loves this city and more importantly she loves the people of Bridgeport and she does not tolerate the lies and games that are played on the residents of Bridgeport. She does legal research on her own “pro bono” (for free) when the mayor and the City Attorney’s Office when they bring harm to those residents. When a young black mother and her two young children all were killed in a fire in PT Barnum Apartments it was Judge Lopez who immediately started her own investigation to make sure that city and state officials found out the true reason for the tragic death of a mother and her two small children.

      Judge Lopez got upset along with a number of other people who called me about Rev. Gaston comment to me, Judge Lopez wrote, “Rev. Gaston claimed in a July 12, 2018, Florida newspaper (The Ledger), that he has “forged a close relationship with the Office of Mayor Joe Ganim.” This “close relationship” undoubtedly landed him a seat on Bridgeport’s Civil Service Commission.”
      “However, when Ron Mackey, the former head of the Firebird Society questioned Rev. Gaston’s relationship to Mayor Ganim, his questions went unanswered. Instead, Rev. Gaston told this respected Bridgeport community leader and advocate for minority causes for decades, to “call my secretary.”
      “That dismissive response appears to be an example of political spin, rather than bold preaching.
      Why didn’t he simply acknowledge to Ron Mackey that which he is quoted as telling the Ledger, a Florida newspaper?”

      When Ernie Newton made his statement about stop and frisk I was the first person who made a comment and I told Ernie that he was wrong, Ernie knows me well enough to know that I was telling him that he was wrong and that he needed to rethink his comment, it was never to make Ernie look bad and if he thought that I wrong he would write a reply or tell me he church. I know and understand what Ernie was trying to do and know what Judge Lopez was saying and doing and I’m in total agreement with her. I know that I might say something from time to time that she might not agree with but that changes nothing as far as my relationship with her or Ernie, we can agree to disagree. Stephanie Thompson, that comes with knowing people over years but I don’t know Rev Gaston so I asked.

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      1. Ron,
        Please answer my question? You allowed Judge Lopez to attack this black preacher? You claim you didn’t know Dr. Gaston, but you appear to have had a conversation about him to Ernie which is why you questioned why he did not call Ernie, right? So, with that, why is it then that you didn’t say to Ernie, what type of guy is he? Get him on the phone because the Judge is looking to slaughter him in the streets like a mad dog? You couldn’t at least have done that. You gave her and Ernie the benefit of the doubt, but when it came to Dr. Gaston you cosigned because he was easy to target because he is not from around here. I see how you all roll. I disagree with this, Ron. Right is right and wrong is wrong. She attacked the pastor and she demonized the black church and its leadership. Then Maria referred to pastors as an ass and you got quiet. Again, will the real slim shady please stand up! I am done with this conversation unless you all have more for me. I am on to the next subject. Frank, who are we supporting for Mayor?

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  11. Frank,

    Thank you for your message. I only offered other argued interpretations of those statements. You can make an argument on both sides of any issue. I respect your point of view.

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  12. Ms. Thompson,

    I appreciate your contribution. However, I would ask that we don’t turn this into an argument. I would like a healthy exchange. Thank you for your cooperation.

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    1. Stephanie I agree with you, and the Reverend,
      It was an attack regardless of what (cantankerous worm) says. Her words not mine Maris. 🙂 And a healthy exchange of contributions 😊 In the spirit of Reverend Eye Candy. 😊 We will agree to disagree on what Judge Lopez penned and call it a critique on the Reverend, other clergy, and the black church. Something that is passionate and connect too to you based on your contributions. Which I understand. I believe his assessment that is was directed at him and indirectly at his fellow clergy colleagues was misinterpreted. That’s why I stated from the beginning, it was an unfair attack (critique) on him and the black church, and her underline pinning point was the separation of church and state, and God. Marcus, who I believe study law, understood what Judge Lopez was truly trying to convey. He was the first to post is thoughts. Not that her critique on the black church wasn’t something she believe or feel. Like Thomas Jefferson and his view on what he wrote in regards of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Only they know what’s the truth behind what they have penned. Well I’m sure God knows and understands.

      For me it was an attack on God, and religion and its involvement in politics. For you it meant more of an “critique” on the black Church. Hence your passionate response. When I say I understand where you are coming from in response to Judge Lopez critique, in what I believe to be her usage to “critique” God and religion, by attacking the black church. I don’t I can’t. However, I can collate it to something that is known to me. As a white person and I’m sure others feel unfairly attacked when the word white is used unfiltered to express the injustices and inequities toward Blacks and other racial groups in the America. There are a lot of poor whites who are living and going through the same struggles as them, at least the poor ones. Everybody love to quote and use Dr. Martin Luther King when it comes to injustice but very rarely do the practice what he preached, “They will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” That color and content swings both ways people. And if you don’t believe in America then you don’t believe in King or his dream. JS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fus4nBIjV2I

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  13. Reverend Gaston, here is an article that may prove illuminating. This is what Ron and I have been fighting for the last 11 or 12 years since David Dunn was appointed director if Civil Service. After reading this you can see why we stay ever vigilant with anything Civil Service. We made great strides in the Fire Department with respect to hiring and promotions, yet after David Dunn was just given this position, Black’s are suddenly to dumb to pass these exams even though we had for decades and the only thing that really changed was David Dunn.

    http://onlyinbridgeport.com/wordpress/debating-demographic-makeup-of-uniformed-services-day-mackey-and-dunn-air-out-positions/

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  14. I must say. This has been a most interesting conversation/dialog. This year(2019) we will be making choices for Mayor of Bridgeport and City Council. I guess there will be a lot of dialog.

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  15. Dr. Gaston,

    Thank you I am not trying to be rude to you and please take this as no disrespect, but I am passionate about justice issues and I have always been bold. Please don’t try to tame me 🙂 I am not doing anything wrong. I know what you mean though. Once you get to know me, you will understand.

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    1. Stefanie Thompson…i might not agree with all you said)or you may not agree with what i have said). However,in the big picture,I like your fervor. Obviously,there are others here on OIB who are passionate about BPT. Who am I take make a judgement? I say….let’s keep on talking.

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      1. Frank,

        I like your comments. Trust and believe I am just a vocal behind the keys as I am in person. I speak my mind. When I was at Harding High my teachers always said I was sassy. I can hold my own. That is how you make it in the world. I don’t care who you are show some respect. I am like Fannie Lou Hammer. You can be a Judge, teacher, lawyer, or whatever you are you are not above anybody else. Come correct when it come to me. Point.Blank. Period.

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        1. Stephanie… keep on fighting.. we may be on different sides. But.then again,we may be on the same side. YOU go talk to Reverend Gaston. I am sure he will listen to you

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  16. Ron,
    Like I asked you why didn’t you call Judge Lopez and demand that she respect this black “brother” since you are calling him brother. Let her know that she does not need to come for the “brother” How about my ass call a press conference and demand that she apologize to this young educated, good looking, pastor and “brother.” The black pastors around here have been quite and they see how she attacked one of their “brothers” that is why the black women have always held down the black church even with the brothers ” outfront.” It is a shame we have not heard from not one black preacher besides Dr. Gaston. Dr. Gaston whatever organizations you are a part of you you need to let your people know that they are too scary to stand up!! How dare they allow Lopez to bite your head off. Shame on her. Who is down for a press conference for Lopez coming for Dr. Gaston? What say you Dr. Gaston? Can we have it at your church?

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    1. WOW!!! Stephanie Thompson, really? Out of respect to Judge Lopez and Rev Gaston I would hope that you rethink comments like this because they are not helpful for anyone.

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    2. As an ass, you should definitely call a press conference. It is likely additional asses will show up because we know how many pastors and politicians love a photo op.

      You are just ridiculous.

      You have a master’s degree, yet repeatedly write grammatically incorrect sentences and misspell words. I am not talking about typos or autocorrect, I am talking about blantant misspellings.

      I am praying you are not a teacher in the Bridgeport Public Schools. I will find out on Monday.

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      1. You are calling pastors asses? God for give her for cursing the flock. You are not fit to lead. Oh, but you were an elected official too. I guess you are an ass too. It takes one to know one.

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          1. Maria,
            It take me for you. I see you are unruly. You have not one ounce of class. I will stand toe to toe with you. You are a laughing stock to so many people. It take me for you. You can laugh at me all you want. I got my piece of paper. Where is yours?

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  17. Dr. Gaston is not boring me. I find him luring. I think he has a bright future. Remember Dr. Gaston never try to tame a black woman because we will help carry the vote for you 🙂 Just a word to the wise. I would like to know who will run for mayor. I know they say Stallworth is running. But who else? I think Lopez was trying to put her fillers out to see what kind of support she was gone get but coming for a black preacher is not the way to get votes. You need the black church in Bridgeport remember that and to touch one preacher is to touch all.

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  18. Dr. Gaston: While persons of the clergy, of course, have the same prerogatives to participate at all levels of the American political process as all other citizens, trying to maintain objectivity from behind the pulpit, when also seeking or serving in elected or appointed political office, presents obvious, as well as unforeseeable conflicts of interest.

    For instance, how would a pastor serving as an appointed Zoning Board member or elected district alderman being asked to consider an eminent domain confiscation of his church’s property, the latter of which is direly-needed for economic development in his district, render an objective vote as a public official while also advocating for the well-being of his flock, which might incur economic and spiritual disruption as a result of a decision to confiscate their spiritual home, disrupting the continuity and energy of their spiritual community and experience? How could such a political cleric vote objectively on such a decision regarding a fellow-pastor’s church in another district when prevailed upon by both his political and clerical colleagues to take opposing stances?

    And what about representing church interests, versus secular constituent interests, at higher levels of government, on such things as abortion, crime and punishment, war, prayer in public schools, etc.?… How would a Congressperson go to their flock, get intense anti-abortion feedback, and then meet with his pro-abortion constituents and come to an objective decision on how to serve his constituent interests?
    Now: If we are talking about a cleric, sans religious portfolio, acting as a truly private citizen, we needn’t consider the conflicts of interests involved with pastoral responsibilities, and related arguments become mute…

    And we must remember that we are in a different century and world than the 20th-Century pastors that were cited in your statement, above… Now, we are in a world were radical theocracies are wreaking havoc throughout the world, the option of the imposition of legalized Sharia law practices is being proposed in this country and has already been partially accepted in England, and dreams of the return of a grand caliphate/theocracy, with all of its implications, are being nurtured and pursued by significant percentages of adherents to Islam around the world…

    So: Please keep in mind, that while the morals and supportive role of religion in the community might serve a noble and useful purpose on the borders of American politics, as it did in the past century and continues to do in the present, the realities of the 21st Century and our new world do speak to the need to maintain boundaries between the religious and the secular in politics… Churches should minister to the community and should lend their voice to peace and social justice, etc., but, likewise, they should also take care to not insinuate themselves in the necessary, objective workings of government, where such insinuation can create social conflict and dysfunction… Our Founding Fathers realized the need to protect religion from government and government from religion, being of a world that was still dealing with various levels of oppression and social conflict related to the practice of religion within a wider social and governmental context…

    Peace, and success to you, in all of your worthy endeavors, but please appreciate the rightful concerns of the secular side of the political spectrum regarding potential conflicts of dual, religious-political service…

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    1. Jeff,

      Thank you for the ” history” lesson. I am sure he knows this already. I just rolled my eyes because white people are always trying to “educate” our people or “tutor” them into submission. Everything you just said, our people already know. They have no other choice but to know. They know how to navigate the toughtest of spaces. Thank you. Now, tell Judge Lopez, not to make “assumptions” about people’s motives without knowing them first. Also, while you are at it, tell her she don’t need to stick her nose into “black on black” issues. She wrote out of anger and you could tell. She tried to silence this black firece leader. I know this probably made you happy because she said what you wanted to say. Jeff, not everybody agree with you. Have a great night Jeff and stay on the North side of Bridgeport in your comfortable castle.

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      1. Breathe in, deeply, Stephanie… Now breathe out s-l-o-w-l-y… Repeat… Again…
        We’re all having a conversation… No need to turn an academic dialogue into a hostile brawl… Dr. Gaston wouldn’t want you getting so defensive and hostile over an academic conversation… We’re all neighbors… We share a city and its well-being… We’re all stakeholders… We’re all free to talk with each other and be about all parts of town, as neighbors… Again; deep breaths in… Slow breaths out… No one is attacking anyone here… It’s a
        c-o-n-v-e-r-s-a-t-i-o-n… Please stop acting like “45.” It doesn’t accomplish anything positive, as he is very slowly starting to realize…

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        1. Jeff,
          This was actually funny. I am still laughing. Thank you for the exercise. It actually works. You should try it too. Let me know how it feels once you are done, okay? I am not arguing with you. Jeff, I hear what you are saying. You talk with sense. I am not trying to bring shame to Dr. Gaston. I am having an intelligent but passionate exchange with everyone. Maria is the one who has a big problem with me. She picked me out to pick on and I am not afraid of her bully tactics.

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          1. I know that it works. I do it all the time. I’m glad you tried it! (It’s even better than K-weed, Robert… And it’s free! — At least until the Republicans figure out how to own the air and the sky…)

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  19. This is how it’s done right.

    Clergy, legislators to campaign for ‘Clean Slate’ legislation

    BRIDGEPORT – Although no formal legislation has been drafted, a group of community members and legislators will gather Sunday to campaign for changes to state law to expunge criminal records of certain crimes. The legislators, religious leaders and community members plan to gather at Mt. Aery Baptist Church, 73 Frank St. in Bridgeport, at 3 p.m. Sunday to campaign for “Clean Slate” criminal justice reform statewide. The proposed legislation aims to create a w…

    https://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Clergy-legislators-to-campaign-for-Clean-13509865.php

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  20. Frank,
    Now listen. Please put a handle on Dr. Gaston’s name. Do not call him Herron. That is disrespectful. If you all can reference Judge Lopez by title followed by her name, do the same for him. Resepect the pastoral office. Respect is respect Frank or Mr. Frank.

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    1. Please, That’s your racism speaking searching as seeking. I believe he used Rev. Gatson. Stephanie is right your an old fart, Just because Rev, Eye Candy is out of your league. 🙂 Now I know why you say Bob Walsh is a friend of yours. Both are mildly racist. 🙂

      Please remember you stated all this by questioning and challenging the Reverend. I guess this says it all. SMBH #respect.

      Rev. Dr. Herron Gaston, I asked you this question, “So what type of a relationship do you have with Mayor Ganim and how were you selected for the Civil Service Commission?” Your reply to me was, ” I welcome a future conversation with you. Should you like, please contact my secretary at my church, and she can arrange for us to meet.” Well, Rev. Gaston, I think this YouTube gives a partial answer and I’m sure that there might be other public comments from you about Mayor Ganim.

      https://youtu.be/s4qVgyQbLtw

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    2. Oh that was Stephanie, not Ron, my bad, Sorry, 🙂 Come on Stephanie, I think we all need to take breath. 🙂
      Ron may be sorry, but not that my rebuttal was wrong. just un-warrented. 🙂
      Stephanie to defend and go after for what Lopez penned is one thing, but attack (critique) Frank for his style of penning. that’s another thing. I am balanced. Like Reverend Eye Candy stated. “There are two sides to a story and we may never get to real truth. But I am hoping for a middle ground. I call it like a see it. 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4s5XOFnv7I

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  21. Ron,
    Do not show shade. Why didn’t they do this before now, referring to your article. They now are trying to do something like this because Dr. Gaston called it out. Did you not see from the News Conference that Dr. Gaston and President Shaw called for people to join CONECT and the Council of Churches? What are you saying?

    Also, basically what I heard you saying is that you encouraged Judge Lopez to attack Dr. Gaston because this was about “you” and how “you” felt. I read the comment about contacting his secretary. I did not take offense because I understand that a person of his caliber typically has an assistant. What was he supposed to do give you his phone number over the internet? Your response was distateful too. Why didn’t you write a piece but instead you asked the Judge to do it? She knows nothing about this pastor. Since she is a good researcher, why didn’t she research enough to find his number and say to him I find what you said on OIB to be distateful? Instead she attacked him and publicly lynched him in the street like a mad dog. Do you not see how classy he was. He clapped back and kept it pushing without attacking her. We all can be attacked. Remember that. You all thought because you all are in this fraternity and that you all know each other that you all will bully this man. He came on and told you what it was, and you still are a little salty. I have a problem with that. Did you not see where he said he talked to Ernie. Come on. Now do better. Ron, you don’t see a problem with what she did. I do. There are so many clergy who told me they will stand with me on doing a press conference. I just need to hear back from Dr.Gaston and we will move forward. We will call for her to apologize to him because she does not know him. She should no better.

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    1. Reverend Gaston has responded with class. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about you.

      You have been repeatedly unable to substantiate your assertions or points of view with facts. You just espouse rhetoric.

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      1. Maria, responding with class? “Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about you”. Now that’s calling kettle black. 🙂 Is that racist people. 🙂

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  22. Reverend I extend my apology to you or anybody who may have loosely interpreted and had found my comment reference to you as being eye candy. 🙂 I hope it didn’t cause any contentious verbal aggressiveness and assault to you and role of a clergyman, other public religious figure, or those outside for the church. In the current civil right movement of the Me Too. Such a reference can be loosely interpreted as disrespectful, again my apology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFJ7ie_yGU

    PS. Reverend I don’t know what programs your church has or the other black churches. but when I was a kid my church had a program call the CYO (I think, I was dropped on my head, I think. 😊 ) We had functions and activities dances, teams and sports where we play other churches in basketball, volleyball, Softball etc. Things that most kids find enjoyable or are into while keeping them teether and grounded to the church. And maybe they stop by on Sunday. (the kids who parents are themselves church goers) Not sure what activities are appealing to kids these days, Probably Gaming (video) events would be good one. JS
    However, Reverend, I’m starting to “SEE” what Maria, Stephanie, and Frank see in you. You do speak (communicate) eloquently. Do you drink coffee or tea? 😊 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9pU0JvXCDc

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  23. Maria,
    Show up to the press conference. I would love to meet you. I will put you in your place so quick. I told you to crawl back into your hole and don’t come back out. It is a new DAWN in Bridgeport. A new day, baby. So, you think you are so powerful don’t you? What kind of degree do you have? Where did you go to school? If you are going to critique me, what about others on here who can’t put a sentence together. Oh. They are not black. I forgot you are of “European” decent. I do not expect much of you, Maria. Your representation proceeds you. I will also have 60 plus youth at the press conference. You are free to show up. I will let you know when we meet so you can be there. I will give you front row tickets. Lopez attacked this pastor and I am going to speak up. I am just like Fannie Lou Hammer. A big, black, bold woman!

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  24. Decent or descent?
    Representation or reputation?

    I don’t believe any of the other posters espoused that they hold a bachelor’s and a master’s degree, and that they were a teacher.

    When you tout such monumental academic achievements a certain level of proper grammatical usage is to be expected. Even more so for a teacher entrusted to teach others.

    Me, I’m just a Warren Harding High School graduate from the lower east side. 🙂

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    1. Maria,
      Didn’t I tell you to crawl back into your hole and don’t come back out. You are outdated. Your time has expired. BYE MARIA. I am proud of my education. Oh. I forgot. We also went to the same high school, so join the club. Meet me at the press conference. I will be sure to give you an invitation. I have to meet you. You have a lot of mouth behind the keys Ms. Maria.

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  25. Let’s just be clear, you will not be putting me in my place. My “place” is being honest and authentic while expressing my point-of-view based on facts and data. I am able to do that without utilizing terms like “baby” and “clap back.”

    Many powerful people in Bridgeport have tried to put me in my “place”, and continue to try, unsuccessfully. Feel free to join those already in the “unsuccessful” club. 🙂

    P.S. I just read-up on Fannie Lou Hammer. She was quite impressive and should be revered. I wonder how many people tried to put her in her “place” during her leadership in the civil rights movement.:)

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    1. Maria,
      Nobody likes you but a few people on this website. You probably only have a few people on here who are rejects like you who like you. The powerful might not be able to put you in your place. But God can put you in your place. You are not “untouchable.”
      Dr. Gaston, your point is well taken. Please also tell Maria the same thing. She is the one who called you an ass. I got her together for you. I will continue to speak up for you because I can see that you mean well and just a good man. I will handle Maria.

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      1. Stephanie while you Handle Maria for Reverend Gatson. I’ll handle you for Reverend Eye Candy. 🙂
        I believe he make his position with Maria on the verbal attacks in these discussion. There could be several facts as to why he has addressed you. I will say I believes he addressed you, because you are not just defending him against a penned critique. Who Mr. Gatson addressed himself. You are now engaging in a childish mean spirited insulates discussion ,in his name. You berated Frank because he addressed the Reverend by his first name, and told him it was a sign of disrespect. Who I think general mean well, and cares about the city. So If you want to keep this cat fight up with Maria I think you should respect Reverend Herron’s wishes, and do not use him like, what I believe Lopez did in her critique, for their own self act. You are kind of putting the Reverend in a bad light, which some here has mentioned. I hope that is not your intent to put the Reverend in a bad light, but you are and that is why he has addressed you and not Maria. I got your back Reverend because us Eye Candy’s got to stick together. 🙂

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      2. Ms. Thompson, you may be handling someone else, however you will definitely not be handling me.

        I must say you defintely have entertainment value. I honestly laugh at many of your posts because they are so off the reservation.

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      3. You are truly delusional.

        You know you have won the debate when the personal attacks begin. I win!

        I like you,Stephanie Thompson. I have been home ill with the flu for three days and you repeatedly made me crack-up.

        I am off to bed with a chuckle and a grin. 😃

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        1. Good night, Maria. Please feel better. Do you need me to make you a cup of soup? You crack me up too. You have never met your match until you met me. The funny thing is we are both in education. I would love to meet you at a Board meeting. We will have order in our meetings because when I speak you would listen. Take your medicine and go to bed.

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  26. Ms. Thompson,

    Thank you for your comments. Again, could we please stop with the name calling. I am not interested in a press conference. I would, however, welcome a conversation with Judge Lopez if she is interested in speaking. Ms. Thompson, just as I extended an invitation to meet with you, I am interested in meeting with others, whether they agree or disagree with me. I am all about advancing the community. Stephanie, I am not trying to temper you or be disrespectful, I am simply saying that I am not interested in demeaning anyone. Thank you for your passion. Have a blessed evening.

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  27. This morning,approximately 11 am,I said thank you and I thought things might get better. Now,11pm,I would say things are even worse. It may be better to say nothing about this particular matter and let the People of Bridgeport start making decisions as we move through 2019.

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  28. This is an ineffably sad day. This discussion started with a senseless slaughter of a young innocent. The City of Bridgeport is gripped by bribes of $20 dollars and a slice of pizza from Testa’s ovens. Is there any hope left here?

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  29. Frank,
    I am sorry we are good. I actually like you. I like what you stand for and you fair. So should I write a piece on Ron since he failed to answer my questions. He avoided being “transparent” yet he is calling for “transparency.” I asked you several line of questions, Ron Mackey. You felt entitled to an answer and had your JUDGE to write an article. So, how about I write an article on how you failed to answer my questions on OBI. Don, thank you for being an honest man.

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  30. No one will have to worry about separation of church and state for much longer as they all work together to bring us the one world religion!😄 Jesus knows secular Bridgeport (and the nation) is heading straight to hell! Let the good Pastor in… this city should be begging to let Godly men back in, black and white! The racism and white hate is always so astoundingly displayed on this blog by all the usual commenters, as every year BPT sinks lower into the pit! 😅🤪🤣

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    1. I will not get into to deep in the political pit between the Judge and preacher, or the cat fight here it turned into. Or to agitate the bases in the name of politicking don’t over look your own team. While you politic you are the ones who are suppose to be the adults in the room to make things better for people and their lives here on earth. Please remember though, you have no say or Judgement authority after you depart the earth no matter what is Preached, That’s solely in the hands of God. There is much that needs to be done here. https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/04/23/police-dallas-cowboys-player-assault/

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  31. Joe Ganim and Mario Testa are afraid Carmen Lopez may actually seek the Democratic nomination for mayor. She’ll tear down the playhouse. Judging from Ms. Stephanie Thompson’s vitriolic posts is a reasonable guess they sent her in to stir up dissent.

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    1. Don & Ron

      You and Ron have been conspiracy theorist since day one. You both said that Dr. Gaston was not going to respond because people told him not to respond. You see he responded. You then said that Dr. Gaston attacked Ernie without hearing both sides. Then when responded to you, you got quiet. He told his side. But then you had the judge write a piece because she would be the closest in the community to match his credentials to attack him on “your” behalf. You were too much of a coward to do it, so you hid behind judge Lopez. She can never wax as eloquently as Dr. Gaston and he is a young man. Bloop. Ron, stop hating on young black men, and instead move over and make some room for other rising stars, your time is over. It has come and gone.

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          1. אני מצטערת, האם סטפני העבירה את ההתקפה ושאלה על הכומר ועל כנסייה שחורה? טוב יותר?

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          2. The Bridgeport Kid,
            I don’t know the people you are accusing me of knowing. What I do know is Ron Mackey is a snake in the grass. He is an uncle Tom and disrespectful of young black men who are educated and talk with sense. He is about tearing down instead of building up. He is behind the Judge attacking Dr. Gaston. The black community are watching you Ron. You are a sell out. Whatever energy you give, i am giving back matching energy.

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  32. The translation didn’t come out as I wanted. Let me see if I can make it clearer. I’m sorry, did Stephanie pen the attack and questioned the pastor and a black church? Better? LOSER.

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    1. Sem mais ataques de vitriolic. Você não saberia vitríolo se lhe mordesse a bunda. Para um homem auto descrito como esperto você é completamente ignorante. Stephanie Thompson é uma agitadora e você não viu através dela menos do que o disfarce brilhante.

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      1. Hey genius, I never proclaim to be smart, but thanks. Just calling out the bull shit as I see it.. Take it for what it’s worth. LOSER. Don’t take my comment Loser as a agitation comment. Just my point of view.
        As for Stephanie being an agitator. I find her and Maria to be “two peas in same pod” just looking to fight, most of the time, when they are bored after their point was made. Just look at Rosario’s link. Maria when trolling just to agitate (looking for a fight) probably not the only one who commented something without the real intent to show support, but for self serving purpose, whatever it is.

        But your ridiculous claim as to Joe and Mario sent Stephanie here, in OIB because they are afraid of Lopez running for mayor, with Day and Ron cheering you on. Don’t ever make a self declaration you are a “smart” There are enough self severings, on all sides, where one doesn’t have to called and be sent for to do there bidding.

        There are a lot of agitator here, even me, from time to time, BAM! but don’t confuse an agitating remark to a point of view I make, you don’t like or agree with, they not the same.

        As for the biggest agitator on the thread for their comment, well who do you think that goes to? Try to answer it before you lick on the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCTYV-DP9w

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  33. Ron Mackey,

    Come from out of hiding and answer my question I asked of you. You are such a leader but you keep ducking and dodging answering my questions. I asked you did you consent to allow the Judge to attack Dr. Gaston? or better yet, did you tell her to attack the Black preacher and the black church? Ron, answer before I write a piece like the judge did for Dr. Gaston. People on OIB would like you to answer the question.

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    1. Knock off the dilettantism, dearie. You’re only here to cause trouble. Go to the ER. You need surgery to remove the bug that crawled up your ass.

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  34. Ron,

    You bullied the pastor for an answer and he answered you. Now that you are in the hot seat you have avoided answer direct questions I have asked you since yesterday. Do not throw a rock and hide your hand.

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  35. Maybe all of us can stop commenting on this issue. Because this is not working. I will not comment anymore on this issue. Peace to all of you. I am sure we will meet again.

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