From Mark Pazniokas, CT Mirror:
Over the more than five years since Sandy Hook, the governor of Connecticut has acted as the Cassandra of gun control, the angry prophet destined to be ignored, at least in the ranks of the NRA and Congress. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy first warned America two days after 26 children and staff died in Sandy Hook School that mass shootings were coming to your schools, your children.
Malloy said it again at the State Capitol and then again on MSNBC on Thursday, the day after another young man with an AR-15 invaded another public school, this time in Parkland, Fla., this time killing 17 students and staff.
“Not two days after Sandy Hook, I said … these shootings are coming to your town,” Malloy recalled in a midday press briefing at the Capitol in Hartford. “They are coming, in essence, for your children. Or your movie-goers. Or your nightclub-users. Or your theater-attenders. They are coming for you.”
Full story here.
Lennie this is nothing more than a political feel good piece. So he said what everybody else has said. your political bias is showing
Political feel good? Pull your head out of your ass, Andy. You missed everything he said. Figures. You need to drink more prune juice. The shit’s starting to clog up your mind. Don’t hold it in any more.
Yes, Andy, guilty as charged. I am biased against the political wimps who are owned by the National Rifle Association.
Andy thinks it I’ll make Anerica great again if individuls ith severe behavioral health issues are given access to firearms.
Andy thinks it will make Anerica great again if individuls ith severe behavioral health issues are given access to firearms.
some thing to think about
At the federal level, very little. Laws and significant regulatory changes:
Extended concealed carry to national parks, within the laws of the states containing them.
Allowed checking firearms on Amtrak trains, bringing their regulation consistent with air travel.
A regulatory change to NFA, which:
The most damaging actions Obama has taken on guns have not been new laws passed by Congress but new ways of applying existing laws and “tweaks” to how they are enforced.
Thousands of veterans have been deprived of their Second Amendment rights and the administration is trying to do the same to some people receiving Social Security benefits.
Obama has decreed that individuals “in the business of selling firearms” register as licensed gun dealers, but has not defined what “in the business” means. No one now knows how many guns it’s permissible to sell before being considered “in the business” and it allows the BATF to pick and choose who they prosecute. After arguing that people who sell a “large number” of guns be considered dealers one recent White House press release now suggests it could be as few as two. Instead of prosecutions being based on law they’re based on the whim of a notoriously corrupt agency.
Obama Executive Order May Require Those Selling Even a Single Firearm to Become Licensed Dealers
Obama banned the return to America of old U.S. military M1 Garand and M1 Carbine rifles from WWII and Korea. These rifles are of great interest to shooters, reenactors, and collectors, and of absolutely no interest to criminals.
Obama has relaxed HIPPA privacy laws and made it possible for healthcare providers send medical information to the government without a patient’s consent, to remove “unnecessary legal barriers” protecting privacy.
He has made the already onerous rules even more so for law abiding people buying already highly regulated NFA firearms and suppressors.
So you see, even though Obama has not been able to get new gun control laws through Congress a
So you don’t like Barack Obama because he is black. We know that.
I dont like Obama because like you he was and is a due nothing
I knew you were losing the argument and sooner or later would fall back on Race. You are lame. Watch out the dog is coming
That’s what your mother said…
LG, do you think the people’s vote have anything to do with maintaining the 2nd amendment? Do you think regulating the first amendment would reduce the bad in the country?
Gary, there are limits on freedom of speech. Why not guns? We live in a gun-crazy country. Why is the United States among the world leaders in gun violence? You mentioned the first amendment. It was more important for Catholic Church leaders to protect the institution than protect the kids. It’s more important for some trigger-happy obtuse pols to protect the NRA that funds their campaigns and/or fear the fallout from banning military-style assault weapons. The GOP “mental illness” knee-jerk default line is fallacious. And the slaughter continues on. The US has a unique hold on gun violence. European countries, for instance, don’t. And closer to home Canada.
Lennie, that was excellent.
LG your attacks on the GOP, NRA and American citizens who support the 2nd amendment is no surprise. What is a surprise is you didn’t attack or even mention our President, Donald J. Trump.
LG you say the guns in America and the gun violence in America are the fault of the GOP and the NRA? Who do you blame for child abuse or home invasions or car theft or heart disease or cancer or birth defects or rape or sexual assault or failing a test or smashing into a pole or falling & hitting your head? It’s everyone else’s fault? Is it too simple to place the focus on the specific incident(s).
LG you say “The GOP “mental illness” knee-jerk default line is fallacious”. The DEM knee jerk default line, “we need MORE gun control”, is not fallacious?
Do you think closing down the whole lead producing industry in the USA was part of the gun control efforts or was that to satisfy the global warming environmentalist? Maybe they used the environmental regulations to close in on the gun control?
As you know limits and regulations on the 1st amendment are minimal. The legal fights across our country regarding the 1st Amendment are to expand the interpretation(s) of the freedom of speech and all its vague tentacles.
I don’t believe we live in an actual gun crazed country. I do believe our country’s make believe world (Hollywood, video games, media, social media, etc.) glorifies guns and gun violent which our sense’s may conclude a gun craze country.
“Military-style assault weapons” they sound so dangerous it’s crazy you even say those words for your public to read them, “military-style assault weapons”. What do you call a 9MM or a 38 used in a street crime, domestic-style assault hand gun? You know rifles are by far not even close to be the weapon of choice in crimes in the USA. But understand it doesn’t fit your narrative.
How about this LG of the 8100 murders in the USA in 2016, 1567 were knives or other cutting instruments and 248 were with rifles. No specific information is available to specify if the rifles used were “Military-style assault weapons” or Demestic-style assault rifles.
Did you know?
Motor vehicle deaths in U.S. – 2014 – 32,744
Motor vehicle deaths in U.S. – 2015 – 35,485
Motor vehicle deaths in U.S. – 2016 – 37,461
Gary,
We’re not talking about child abuse or home invasion. We are talking about the inability of the U.S. Congress to prevent psychopaths from acquiring deadly weapons.
Bridgeport Kid, what you’re talking about is a state matter. As you may know our great governor Malloy has already restricted and regulated our rights to bear arms on many occasions.
It is not merely a state matter. Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the U.S. those kaw safe easily circumvented. After Sandy Hook, after Las Vegas, after Orlando and Parkland, Florida, after Dylann Roof, when is the GOP going to stand up to the NRA? People are being slaughtered because Wayne La Pierre and the gun lobby want unlimited acces to firearms.
kID YOU HAVE A FIXATION WITH SHIT IT MUST MEAN YOU EAT SHIT AND BARK AT THE MOON.REMEMBER THERE IS A SHIT EATING DOG LOOKING FOR YOU.
btw ANY TIME
Any time what, Andy? If you don’t like being criticized for being a dumb ass there’s a solution: STOP BEING A DUMB ASS.
THE DOG IS COMING
Blowit out your ass, you wrinkled old turdbag.
If I did that you would get a broken nose
No, but your head would collapse.
This is not a complicated. Everyone knows the root of the problem is easy access to guns. The responsibility for this lies with the gutless politicians who care more about being reelected (and their supporters) than about the mass murder of school children.
John, you must be one of those bleeding heart liberals Democrats, NOT.
Black Rock John you know it’s legal to buy guns in Connecticut? If you have a CT. permit you can purchase a gun from a gun store. If you are buying a rifle you can purchase it without a permit but you have to get a favorable back ground check done before you can have the rifle. Is that the easy access you speak of? If you are speaking about how easy and ready available illegal guns are then it sounds like you have a moral obligation to report your sources to the authority. Maybe that is part of the problem regarding illegal guns, people have information on illegal activity but don’t report them.
Who has the answers for all the kids in America killed in auto accidents? Who has the answer for all the kids in America killed on the streets (not in schools)? Who is working on all the kids in America that are doing, dealing and buying drugs? Who has the answers for all the kids on prescribed drugs that are altering their state of minds for the rest of their lives? Here is the big question, who has the answers for ALL the kids not receiving an education in Connecticut and I’m talking about a basic education?
Come on you all, it’s not that complicated all our community leaders, hollywood super stars, pro athletes and of course ALL the media have answered and solved these problems 50 plus times in the past 10 years.
I stand by my post.
Don’t expect the Trump “administration” to do one thing to make it all better. The Donald will probably spend the weekend playing golf at Mar-A-Lago instead meeting with the bereaved in Parkland, Florida.
Trump is on the ropes anyway. Robert Mueller indicted 13Russian nationals for interfering with the 2016 presidential election. According to news reports some of the 13 are connected to the Trump advisors. That explains the holdup over security clearances.
A federal grand jury has indicted 13 Russians and three Russian entities in connection with the attack on the 2016 presidential election.
The defendants are “accused of violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes,” according to a statement from the special counsel’s office. The indictment charges them with “conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft.”
Breaking News from CNN? Again sources say………
The dog is coming
Yo mama.
*** Many of the precautions @ the time of the shootings & still now in place, failed to stop or slow down the amount of victims due to the type of weapon, etc. used. The school had an armed school officer, the kids & staff were trained & knew the precautions and escape protocal. School Staff had been alerted about this ex-students M.O & told to report immediately if he was spotted with a backpack on school grounds, etc. See something, say something was used by someone who was taken back by some personal comments by the shooter on social media and not followed up on by local or federal authorities. Guardians knew the boys mental status was getting worst since he was not taking his meds; plus there was a weapon in the house? The shooter took a uber to the school carrying his backpack and weapon wrapped in ? So whats left in precautions to slow or prevent shootings like these? Not a Simple solution but it seems like stricter gun laws on buying or selling, weapons banding on auto-matic type weapons, magazines, ammo, stock bumpers, etc. No one hunts with military type weapons with a banana clip, or a stock bumper to shoot faster! And weather for hunting, self & family,or property protection. If you can’t hit your target with a hunting rifle, shot-gun, regular revolver or pistol then you shouldn’t have a weapon period. Try a bow or sling-shot cause a military style weapon is not the answer, just cause you feel its your gun rights! Mass killing weapons& the equipment that goes with them should not be available to the adverage-joe & only available to the military or active law enforcement. For a U.S citizen that qualifies & meets all the training & criteria law requirements to buy & own a weapon, waiting a little longer to get checked by law enforcement, etc. in order to buy or sell a weapon should not be a big deal. Nothing is fool proof in a country that has the amount of weapons available & owned in the USA; however tighter & better weapons laws are needed to try and get a better control on the amount of weapons & the types, also who has them and why! And stiff penalties for those that are caught with weapons that their not suppose to have period in the act of a crime or not! ***What say you?***
In this case all the indicators were there, Cruz has problems, a weapon was in the house, a tip was called in yet nothing was found credible to take action. One the New York news radio the reporter said the FBI is going over the failures that lead up to this carnage. So what now, what measure are going to be kicked around to prevent school, work place, or any place will people gather?
Let’s start with a mental health screening for anyone thinking of buying a gun. Extend the background checks to see if the police have been to the home of a prospective buyer and why. It’s time to get in the head of potential buyer. Ask the buyer why do you want a military type weapon or why are they buying so much ammunition?
Create a date base that will extend to all gun and ammunition buys where the buyer’s gun purchases can be tracked. State gun registries go only so far and there might be states that do not require them. The purchases are another matter.
The first school shooting was back in 1966. I am not going to rattle off all the others since but the theme is the same. Nothing concrete was done to prevent them.
It’s time to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them.
Don’t expect Congress to do any of that. The GOP is bought and laid for with NRA money. Wayne La Pierre speaks and the Republican party listens.
The dog is coming
So’s your mama.
The dog is coming
So’s your mother.
After completing your above proposed checks successfully will I be able to pick my kids up at school or attend their school play while carrying my firearm?
Only after you’ve secured your weapon.
In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, “The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence” and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[9] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia.
Thank you.
A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
In Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016), the Supreme Court reiterated its earlier rulings that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding” and that its protection is not limited to “only those weapons useful in warfare”.
So what’s your tke on the seventeen victims in Florida? Are they collateral damage?
Your arguments do not hold water, nor do they address the threat to public safety. Too many innocents are dying because of the goddamned Second Amendment. The U.S.A. has 7% of the orld’s population. As a nation we are responsible for 31% of the World’s gun violence.
We’re not in a court of law, stop arguing forthe defendants.
TBK I don’t think we could have a reasonable discussion on these matters. Your opinions are too cemented so I’ll save us both the time and leave it at that.
You didn’t answer my question: what’s your take on the seventeen victims in Florida? Are they collateral damage?
Just asking me this question says you don’t know me.
My take on the children losing their lives is heart wrenching. I feel a burn in my heart a burn you will never understand and probably will never experience. I feel the communities’ grief and the sorrows of all the empty chairs. The friends and family who will never see what beauty and wonders their friends would have shared with the world. Most of all, I feel the parents’ emptiness as if it were starvation and the massive holes that have been put in their hearts and lives.
Gary, you sighted a Supreme court decision that happened in 2016 while the Supreme court decision that I sighted was in 1876 which is years closer to the mindset of the framers of the Constitution and what they felt was what the framers had in mind when the 2nd Amendment was written.
The framers of the constitution must be rolling over in their graves to see what you 2nd Amendment zealots have done with their great work.
Well said.
I believe the Justices in 1876 simply said The 2nd Amendment restricts the federal government from infringing on the right to bear arms. The defendant was claiming a private peoples restricted their right to bear arms and claimed they violated their constitutional right to bear arms.
Mr. Day are you advocating for the original U.S. Constitution to be upheld from it’s 1776 date, deleting all the modifications and amendments?
Gary, what I’m saying is that as of Jan. 31, there were close to 1.4 million people serving in the U.S. armed forces, according to the latest numbers from the Defense Manpower Data Center, a body of the Department of Defense. Keeping this in mind What the Hell does you, me or anyone else owning a gun has to do with maintaining a well regulated militia?
I think it defies credulity and reasonable thought for anyone to think, feel or believe that this is what the framers of the constitution had in mind with the 2nd Amendment, that any fool could own a gun in 21st century America. A Well Regulated Militia!
When the 14th amendment was passed it wrapped around the 2nd amendment which ultimately conclude the citizen’s right to defend themselves. The courts have concluded the states or the federal government shall infringe on the right to bear arms and they don’t have the right to cripple their rights to bear arms.
correction: the federal government shall “NOT” infringe
Donald is on point. We have a well regulated militia. Also a navy, coast guard, federal, state anspd local law enforcement.
No one is denying your precious right to own a gun. We just want common sense regulations on who is lowed to own guns, and what type..
What does common sense regulations mean?
If the federal government passed a law requiring federal required more stricked back ground checks will this allow me to carry my firearms in all the USA states, school grounds and state and federal buildings?
Donald is not on point. We have a great Military, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. We have Sate Police and we have Local Police, we do not have a militia.
It’s amazing you include state and local law enforcement to use as our personal protection when just a couple months ago people were taken a knee claiming they and their systems were the people’s enemies.
You want to band specific guns and rifles due to the descriptions the media and the anti-gun persons have labeled them to be.
The words “military assault” is simply two words put in front of another word to scare the shit out of the readers. The reaction you and others are hoping for, “OMG non-military people have Military weapons and they are using them to assault civilians”. Why don’t you hear or say Military Assault 45 cal or Military Assault 9mm or Military Style Assault Knife when referencing them in crimes in the streets of our country.
P.S. AR15 rifles was design to not in fact kill but to wound.
-What is or what would you consider federal government “common sense regulations”? -Do you think Connecticut has common sense gun regulations/laws?
-How do you or anyone else feel about automatic 10 years in jail, no early release, for illegal possession and or use of a firearm and if another crime is committed during the discovery that jail time is additional to the ten years, regardless of their psychological, physical or mental conditions?