Update: Police Chief AJ Perez told OIB on Monday arrests have been made in conjunction with the shooting. City Council members Jeanette Herron and Alfredo Castillo heard the shots fired, according to a News 12 report here.From Steve Krauchick, Doing It Local
Witnesses said they heard 5 shots around 9:30 Saturday night and two women are in critical condition. Chief Perez said he believes it was a robbery on the quiet Anson Street which is located behind St. Vincent’s Hospital. One woman was shot in the chest and the other in the back. Radio reports said the suspects are young, in their late teens or early twenties.
A nine-year-old girl was also struck by bullet fragments, but not seriously hurt.
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When will it end?????????
Ganim got on Finch and Gaudett but the real issue is what is in a person’s heart. Until you can change that the violence will continue.
It’s not the gun that is to blame, it’s the person who has their finger on the trigger.
You can no more blame the gun for shooting someone than a fork for making someone fat.
True, true!!!
Too many guns in America, Stringfellow. Plain and simple. Trying to deflect this well-recognized fact is simply trying to ignore it. Whose strings are you trying to pull here?
One thing that is overlooked is the lack of mental health services. These services are cut due to the lack of funding. You add the other component where there are people with poor problem-solving skills.
They often use violence as a way to express themselves. They will use what is available, call it a weapon of opportunity if you will. Guns are here and will always be here. Until the courts come down hard on people who use or possess a gun these crimes are going to continue. Too may cases are plea-bargained to parole or probation.
From what I understand if you are caught with a gun and you do not have a permit, you are to do a year in jail. Follow the next gun arrest where the suspect did not have a permit, see what they get.
There are too many cars and too much booze. Whom do you blame for drunk driving accidents? Ford, Dodge, General Motors?
Let’s start holding people responsible for the wrong they do. Too many times it’s the instrument that is attacked than the subject who uses it.
Arrests made …
Okay, let’s see what happens in court. The cops can pat themselves on the back but it’s the court that has the final say. If the case is dismissed or another not guilty verdict what was the point, make an arrest, any arrest? We all have seen too many not guilty verdicts. You want to blame the juries but in the end it is evidence or the lack of it. Juries have to work with what is put in front of them. Time will tell what happens to these two suspects. I hope there are several witnesses and some evidence to support what the witnesses said.
Put it all on a scale and see who has more, the state or the defendants.
If the evidence is lacking, it’s poor police work and poor supervision.
Okay, since the cops on scene did not make an arrest then it went to a detective. If a detective turned up something the cops on scene did not do, then it’s the detective who is doing his or her job. If the detective has the blessing of their supervisor to continue the investigation and I can’t imagine why they would not.
Let’s hope the supervisor was in the loop of the investigation, if not you can’t point the finger at poor supervision.
Soon enough we will all have the answers.
If the case gets to the detective that means any arrest that is made is made using an arrest warrant. An arrest warrant contains facts of the case and lists evidence. This warrant is reviewed by the supervisor and brought over to the court. A state’s attorney will review the warrant and he will either sign it or send it back for additional work. I will tell you this, warrants are a lot of work.
Since this case is a felony and you can make a warrantless arrest for a felony. My guess, this arrest was done like this. The detective must have just enough probable cause to make the arrests. The news said these guys will be in court on Tuesday. If they do not make bond, they will sit in jail until their next court date. By the time it’s all said and done we will all see the cards. Let’s just hope the charges stick.
As the holiday season approaches, it’s a bad time to sit in jail because of the poor staffing and slow-moving docket.
Sorry, everyone we arrested we needed a warrant or there was no arrest. Warrants and arrests that are made 24 hours after the crime require a warrant.
Too many guns. Too many outlaws. Too little incentive for outlaws and potential outlaws to take a different path. Too much incentive for outlaws to stay outlaws and bring in new recruits. Aimless society. Wrong-headed and otherwise clueless, bought-off government.
CHANGE in November. Top to bottom. Any change is better than more of the same.
Well Jeff, do you think this country is going to do a one-eighty in November? Changing who is in the White House is not going to fix the ills of this country. It’s not the guns so much but it’s the will to use them. Why must violence be used over any dispute? Where has the ability to solve a dispute through reasoning gone? Can’t people agree to disagree?
Do we take away the knives, baseball bats, bottles and any other weapon of opportunity? You can’t regulate these items any more than you can regulate human nature.
It’s easy to blame the instrument of a crime than the person who commits it. Too many deals done in the courts and bad guys not spending enough time in jail. Where is the harsh time for gun crime?
Too many liberals and jails not a scary place to fear. If they were you would have fewer people going and doing more to avoid it.
Perhaps if people were afraid of jail there might be less crime.
Let’s think of a great place to live, where there are really, really strict jails, very strict societal mores and conservative cultural values, schools that teach the basic three R’s and have teachers at liberty to beat students, and yes, has lots of guns. Just about everybody has a gun there, even the kids. There are few “criminals” in this country, the good citizens toting the guns won’t allow any “crime” in this country. Actually, there are a few countries like this. Places with good, old-fashioned values, very strict jails, low crime, lots of guns. I guess Stringfellow would like the US to take a page from one of these countries. Maybe we should learn a lesson about how to run our society from say, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Iraq, Syria, the Philippines? Now, I can also think of a few countries that do everything the wrong way, where no civilized person would want to live, because of all the liberalism and socialism, and lack of guns, horrible places like Sweden and Denmark. But according to Stringfellow, in the US we should probably take a page from Afghanistan or the Philippines, two places that have already benefited from our Democracy lessons. Now it’s time for us to let them reciprocate and show us how to get society in line here.
Well said, Jeff. This fool can make those assertions because he hides behinds the cloak on anonymity and if he had to put his name acknowledging his drivel he would have a lot less to say.
Just because you do not agree with my opinion or anyone else’s does not make them a fool. Just agree not to agree and leave it at that.